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What are you stalking this thread? They want World War 3 and they want it now…. Now I’m not sure if I should leave it stock (to preserve the collectable factor) or convert it to the AK format. Once in an owners hands most choose to make it 922 compliant, requiring a minimum of 6 US made parts. Picked up a 7.62×39 Saiga a couple of months ago. He stated a desire to pursue an AWB during his debates for second term. It isn’t a normal sanction, “it has NOTHING to do with banning guns. Technically, this is close call. Sad day when a immigrant knows more about our country and liberty and patriotism then %99.9 of Americans. I’m actually fairly confident that they aren’t. We have 1 Saiga 12 left with accessories, brand new! Parts counts matter. Their successor is often quite good at appeasing the masses, as they know what lies ahead if they don’t. At that point I don’t think import regs are going to matter much. Well, if California splits into six states (being put on the ballot for 2014) then you will have ten more Senators from California to contend with. I would rather spend my money on a $550 Romanian WASR-10. During Bush years an average of 5 million guns were sold per yr, by background checks. I bet this destroys a lot of American businesses. i wonder how many saigas have been used in a crime? 1446, the so-called “Enhanced Background Checks Act.” Under the bill, the FBI could indefinitely block federally licensed dealers (FFLs) from transferring firearms, simply by failing to provide decisions on the background ... Today, Governor Ralph Northam signed House Bill 2310. And their trip here is funded by Obama and the rest of the Dem-rat party. Never waste an opportunity. Between cirrhosis, DUI’s, etc., I’m guessing Russian vodka kills or harms more people than the humble AK. My Navy diver nephew just bought one. There are a lot of them, and this is cherry picked to obviously propagate an agenda of fear mongering or hate, or whatever by Mr. Leghorn. or about guns from Russia ,or about a air liner being shot down… It’s about the Start of world war 3 to kill billion for a NEW WORLD ORDER only………wake up AMERIKA ! “Zastava in particular is putting together a far higher quality AK than Izhmash was”. @Jim Barrett: That’s one thing upon which we agree. What’s that? Century definitely does. The nonstandard magazine leaves much to be desired as well. This president isn’t going to tell me a damn thing what I can and cannot buy from any country… I didn’t vote for him, don’t trust him and after all he has done since taking office, I have no respect for him either. No thanks! MSNBC/CNN/NPR/HuffPo/DailyKos/ABC/CBS/NBC. In fact, you already couldn’t get a non-sporting Kalash straight from them anyway. The next time a James Holmes shoots up a movie theatre with an AR-15, should we ban all of those? Restoring the import ban is a no-brainer that would require no legislative action, would make our nation safer and would support neighboring Mexico where drug violence is fueled by firearms flowing south from the United States.” None of that exists here. It’s fairly inclusive, not just targeted at firearms. And on our way out I might add. you can still find them here http://www.armslist.com/posts/3256103/grand-rapids-michigan-shotguns-for-sale–saiga-12-custom. The only question is how much more of Ukraine they will gobble up and with Obama at the helm I’m betting on quite a bit. Communism didn’t die. Does Ukraine even factor in this gun grab? First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Aside from Serbia and Russia, all the former Warsaw Pact countries we import AKs from are NATO allies- so there won’t be a ban on importation. I see the Fury 12 gauge out there for around $400. You’ll make a lot of money in the process and be able to sleep at night knowing that you aren’t sponsoring sociopaths like Putin and his gang. If you want “Made in Russia” on your receiver, prepare to pay. So the importation of new Izmash-produced firearms is now banned indefinitely in the United States. American firearms are great sure, but so are a lot of other countries. http://www.prageruniversity.com/Political-Science/Middle-East-Problem.html#.U8fXPvldVuI. The fed confiscated citizens gold and once they got it, doubled the exchange rate, rendering the the compensation paid out worth half. No. To panic buy a 74 or not to panic buy a 74. It just hurts the honest, Constitution-loving Americans that like their freedom. American made manufacturers sell first to cops who look like fricking storm troopers and flash bang babies on general blanket no knock warrants? also cheap imports help keep the poor man FREE…Russia is acting in PEACE and the USA is acting in WAR. No one has ever been convicted of not complying with it. At least one of them it’s confirmed that it was fired upon by a Russian fighter jet. But as we all know, the Obama administration never misses an opportunity to screw over US gun owners […] I’m a little more pissed we’re going to lose VEPRs and Baikals. For under 1k? Though I own AR and HK pattern rifles as well, my polish tantel in 5.45 & yugo m70 ab2 are my most used, followed by my Psl 54 & 5.45 vepr. Kalashnikov is just one of many sanctioned Russian businesses. When time comes to vote, or make other choices, they then could decide on principles not on fear of benefit loss. This Nazi has to go. If you are so inclined, pray. You might want to read the article that’s linked. After the November elections all bets are off. Owning a 5.56AK was not my first choice in the fall of 2012, but it has proven to be some of the best money I ever spent. What good is it doing anyone to ban a firearms. The 1968 regulations stipulated that imported weapons must have “sporting” applications. AFAIK, we are working in plenty of countries where the indigenous folks on our side are on patrol using AK’s. So, if we were to ban products made by Smith and Wesson, Rock River, Ruger, Winchester, DPMS, etc that wouldn’t be a gun ban, just a ban on the products they manufacture. Izmash and molot were both about to go belly up several times and there were already several restructure periods where their employees were not getting payed for months. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. @LC: This nation hasn’t had a president worth a damn for as long as I’ve been alive. Yeah, I’m right there with you. This week, the Treasury Department used authority delegated to it by the president, under Executive Order 13661, to sanction Russian gun maker Kalashnikov Concern (formerly Izhmash). I actually think that may work out in our favor. Thats the epidemic, thats the true shame. Nothing else. Um, what’s so hard for you to understand basic logic? Lets face it though, thats not gonna happen. Who says that is their right? I’m sorry to say it, but the simple fact is that it looks like we will be at war in some way, shape, or form in the foreseeable future. As of 10:45 AM today all saiga products are sold out of every distributor we know of. You can bet money on it. If you own 100,000 rifles by a listed ban company and they were paid for before the ban date, they can be sold here in the USA without issue! It will take a few terms of solid pro 2A presidents and zero more events like Sandy Hook if you want someone to finally rescind this, look at the M1’s from Korea deal, that was decades ago, and nothing ever got done about it. I am worked up at Mr. Leghorn’s article. The order gives the Secretary of the Treasury the power to compile an appropriate list of entities to be sanctioned. You’ve come to the wrong place to demonize an inanimate object….and a really cool fun one at that. Second, the saiga platform was a great value for someone wanting to have a personalized custom AK. Does this hit Baikal, maker of the only double rifles available for under 10 grand? This tactic was used in 1989 by George H. W. Bush, and in 1998 by Bill Clinton, to ban the import of several types of semi-automatic rifles. This to aid the efforts to install a puppet government against it’s subjects wishes…in short, our despot is misusing an emergency power to expand other despots authority beyond borders. That is not “propaganda,” that is reporting on the subject matter that your business revolves around. As far as separatists are concerned, they already had a referendum. One of the most reliable ways to vote against your 2nd Amendment freedoms is to vote for a Democrat. Sure, some Republicans are also statist and anti-gun, but not nearly as bad as Democrats. That wouldn’t happen because the reason they are so cheap is because they are made on machines that have been paid for and by cheap labor. Would this affect Krebs custom rifles? After the breakup of the USSR and the end of Cold War, Russia has continued to produce well-regarded AK-pattern rifles that have become popular among American gun owners. Romanian and Ukrainian ammo are selling for the same price as Tulammo and Golden Tiger. The upshot of this is that once these sanctions are in place, it is likely that they will be permanent. Will defo be coming back, ’tis a nice blog! Magazines for me are looking pretty good, though I can always buy US-made ones for range practice. Am I able to resell a Kalashnikov product at a gun show or other secondary market? If I, as a private individual, want to export a few crates of AKs to, say, “Donetsk People’s Republic”, should I be allowed to do so regardless of what the feds think about it? It’s a tangled web of companies over there. You can own them and importers, dealers, even other manufacturers can import them into the USA as long as there is no moneys owed too the companies listed in the ban! Meanwhile, we continue to allow the importation of something that is already illegal, illegal aliens! Liberals complain about wealthy donors, but dems not only have wealthy donors and businesses receiving tax money for donating, they also steal from us all. STFU and leave it as it is. So get your facts straight, and quit misrepresenting the truth. I wouldn’t want either of what they’re getting handed. In this case, however, I think Nick’s post is more about information than inflammatory rhetoric. Banning products limits choices and raises prices. To say they have an upper hand merely because their people are abused slaves is to not to know our adversary, and underestimate them to our ruin. It seems the president didn’t wait too long, for he wasn’t Stalin at all and was russian right into Putin in that executive order…. In 1988 the US Navy downed an Iranian civilian airliner, in Iranian air space, killing all 290 on board, including 66 children. I read all these comments here and you just keep on popping up ranting about this and that. but I thought I was going to buy one based on this …, [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ61vo_hbGA&w=560&h=315%5D. The POTUS is out of line and so is any agent of government who endorses, enforces, or otherwise assists this act of petty tyranny. Boy, I would sure care, if only I could BUY one! WHO CARES!!!! our import/export bans on Japan started world war 2, open and fair free trade is viewed as acts of PEACE. Our company has our shotguns are working hard to reach you in time. Buy Hillarys dried droppings for all I care. Fully justified. Coming soon, ” if you like your Saiga… you can keep your Saiga. Tivor?) You’re the same kind of idiots who are getting guns banned at retail stores and chain restaurants because you’re too stupid to stay under the radar. as i said earlier to a diff guy, perhaps assuming everoyone else is a dipshit may be misplaced blame (you may be the dipshit), and sure, the guns are still “available”, but not at teh price they were. My woman needs one…, I have a Saiga .223 for sale if anyone is interested. Wouldn’t it make more sense to ban financial institution ties than firearms? They will take what they can get, but they can’t say “stopping the flow of AK47’s to our streets” because they found that’s unpopular. contact information The stated reason was to punish the Russian government and people for their incursion into Ukraine. The right never rolled it back, AFAIK. Mine certainly is Russian, and the barrel/receiver are produced in the Izhmash factory. They haven’t banned other Russian products. Actually that would put a Mosin over 300 bucks. Asshats. …He said ironically, as he links to an out of stock shotgun. Semi-automatic shotguns, super poze shotguns, double-barreled shotgun, single-barreled shotgun, the pump-action shotgun, air rifle, birds, blank gun sounds are serving you with the manufacture and export. Actually they do use Russian receivers, SGL for Russian Saiga conversions, and SLR for the Bulgarian ones. This is so dumb my brain hurts, “Dumb” is correct; it’s not like they can’t sell every gun they make…. No it’s not stand alone, just part of a pretty comprehensive list of sanctions. There are not as many choices for 5.45 guns but the majority of those seem to be something other than Saiga. I know it is crazy that a firearm blog would would focus on the effects an EO has on firearms. Remember, even the superbowl had the sandy hook kids paraded around and sportscasters promoting anti2a? Well, like I said, Russian news sources have been reporting the acquisition of “Buk” on June 30. And in the meantime, US utilities are reduced to buying Russian coal. A happy thought there. That distinction has a huge and very direct difference, actually. America has become dumb, downright stupid. This is skewed just like Fox News, or Washington post, it has NOTHING to do with banning guns. CAUTION: Federal and state firearms laws are subject to frequent change. Email: [email protected] I can see a lot of imported guns banned by Obozo and the Donkey Rats as they have no ” sporting purpose”. Arsenal uses exclusively Bulgarian receivers now, someone else went over the particulars above. History has shown that despotic totalitarians do not last long in power. You can still get Kalashnikov Concern weapons(for a little while longer, and at a higher price) at most gun stores. “Sporting Purposes” Largely Determines Firearm Import. If a U.S. person has an inventory of Kalashnikov Concern products in which Kalashnikov Concern has an interest (for example, the products are not fully paid for or are being sold on consignment), we advise that U.S. person to contact OFAC for further guidance on handling of the inventory. It’s a ban on import, not owning them. We’re like the older dude at the underage party, no-one wants us there but they’ll use us for free booze. But it’s not…this is something he wanted and now that he has it, it’s staying. I’d believe ITAR-TASS over the….. We have communists and socialists sitting in the seats of power in this very country. the sanctions do exactly what the TTAG article states: bans further importation of any Kalashnikov/Izhmash group manufactured firearms. How long will it be before these “people” in DC ban the manufacture of firearms here? People spend most of their income on interest and taxes, which often leaves our shores. And I say this not as a Republican, but as an Independent Constitutional Conservative. This is another back Door ban and it won’t end here. Buy American ! USA? In this particular case, it doesn’t matter how accurate it is – it’s just hilarious. The country is still hemorrhaging money and jobs, the middle east is simmering like an oil field fire, Israel is about to wage holy war on Palestine the list goes on and on, so as tough as it sounds nobody, no matter how sympathetic to the cause, likely gives two whole f*cks about a backdoor ban on AK47 variants from two manufacturers. Strelkov, the separatists’ military leader (now possibly ex), is a renowned monarchist. Anything coming out of Russian news agencies isn’t trustworthy when it comes to this subject, so I wouldn’t even try reading through all that propaganda. It was the commies behind the trigger that did the damage. Remember USA? And/or, import the kits and complete rifles from another company that can claim the 100,000 rifles they are importing have been paid for for quite some time and there is NOTHING Obama can do about it. We’re primarily concerned with firearms. (ETA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco#Controversies_in_the_United_States ). You could make the gun control argument about Daddy Bush but you are ignorant as hell if you think you can pin gun control on Dumbya. Maybe you’re not aware that they have begun cutting out the middle man (i.e. Maybe a 3 state split would be better. If they are divided, maybe the nation needs to be split(east-west, north-south). It’s not necessarily an inappropriate charge. There is a difference between an alien, foreigner, and immigrant…D’souza is a immigrant, true American. In light of the Malaysian Airlines shootdown (most likely either by Russian-backed separatists or Russia itself), all trade between the U.S and Russia should cease. Don’t count on it. Hell, the Ukraine is already loaded with AK’s. Time for Kalashnikov Concern to open a factory in the US! Not only will I have my license, Obama will be booted and we MAY have someone who has more sense. Zastava in particular is putting together a far higher quality AK than Izhmash was. That being said, they may have received help/training from the Russians during this whole time, but, if that’s the case, it makes no difference whatsoever if the Russians shot the missile from one of their own launchers or if they sent men to shoot the missile from a launcher captured by the rebels. Already been looking for 2 years without success 🙁, You weren’t looking hard enough, http://www.classicfirearms.com/russian-saiga-12-gauge-semi-auto-shotgun. Turns out I was right – at least with regard to intention – the fact that he has not succeeded is certainly not because of a lack of effort. The people in the central valley and the eastern part of the state and up into Redding and Yreka are a lot more pro-gun than the people in LA or the bay area. China also supports North Korea, who have nuclear weapons and threatens my country of birth, South Korea. Pretty sure Kalish is actually just another name for “Russian government” – so it kinda makes sense, even if it sucks and won’t do anything except screw over the worker bees in Russia.. It’s not like pootie-poot is gonna miss any meals because of this.. In summary, our government shouldn’t be able to tell the American People that they cannot purchase these products from this manufacturer. Gotcha. Should we ban an fn 5.7 and punish Belgium because our law enforcement doesnt like it? Who cares about the sporting classicifcation when they were easily converted or very usable as they were imported. I wouldn’t count on it. I understand that when sanctions are made, they have to be blanketed over, even the stuff we like. Missile systems. What if I’m exporting several kilograms of enriched uranium, and the recipient is Iran? You should. They may be using such branding by permission in preparation for the merger. The importation of these commercial models into the U.S. was later further restricted with the U.S. Government's importation ban on Russian firearms. Communism is about the economy – not about having rights or banning religions. The ban on Chinese AKs and what not, instituted by Clinton, is still I effect and will likely never get lifted. Previous sanctions only tangentially impacted the import of cheap and reliable firearms from Russia into the United States, but now the Obama administration is specifically targeting the makers of Saiga rifles and shotguns, as well as other companies. So you admit that the sanction is worthless and only creates more hoops to jump through? Yet, now that it’s Obama, you never hear anything out of the Dems about the Act’s abuse of civil rights, plus they voted to reathorize it….twice. Our 1st amendment protects our right to speak out. @ imrambi-M1 Garands are banned?! So now I guess I am and will always be in the AR camp, by default. “Buy American” is un-American. Let’s test your ability to read outside of this article and do some real research: Give me one example of a Federal level gun ban that was repealed (and the 1994 AWB does not count because it had a sunset provision built-in from the start). What if a region is split, say, 55% to 45%? No… not about gun control… about Russian control!”. Earlier today, the Department of Commerce announced new sanctions against Russian products and companies operating in the United States. He had many faults but Gun Ban agenda wasn’t one of them. Good! North Carolina: House Passes 2nd Amendment Protection Act, H.R. For example, this standard is used in requiring the Attorney General to authorize import of any firearm that “is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.” The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), however, has ignored the popularity of particular shooting sports to justify its attempts prohibit certain firearms. Again, that’s way above what MANPADS can reach and the rebels don’t have the AA hardware necessary to get that high up. A REAL patriot would find a way to produce the same product domestically instead of trolling the president on the internet. And I do have an unfortunately strong case of the “someone’s wrong on the Internet” syndrome. They administration will keep chipping away until…….. Dang, I really wanted one of those Izhmash Biathlon straight pull .22 rifles.

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